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     Linda Buzzell-Saltzman (Linda) Bug Squisher Username: Linda Post Number: 35 Registered: 01-2006 |
Just re-read Ron's comment about planting the shrub form of a climber at its base "to get a fuller 'picture'" and realized what a brilliant design idea that is! I'll have to try it! Thanks, Ron. | ||
| Merrill Hulse (Kernel) Bug Squisher Username: kernel Post Number: 33 Registered: 09-2004 |
Linda, In El Cerito CA Community Center. Da Kernel | ||
| Linda Buzzell-Saltzman (Linda) Bug Squisher Username: Linda Post Number: 8 Registered: 01-2006 |
Where does the Celebration of Old Roses take place, Jeri? Sounds intriguing! | ||
| Ron Robertson (Lemecdutex) Bug Squisher Username: lemecdutex Post Number: 29 Registered: 01-2006 |
Jeri, I'd be pleased to see you. Lots has been done over the past year, so it should be looking pretty nice at that time. SDLM is a problem about opening well here, too. Hope to get to go to the Celebration myself. Harder and harder to get away from work here, though! --Ron | ||
| Jeri Jennings (Jeri) Bug Squisher Username: Jeri Post Number: 52 Registered: 01-2006 |
think it was Mark Twain that said the coldest winter he ever went through was summer in San Francisco *** Yup. That's MY climate! We wear Uggs in July here. Well, we are a good deal like the Salinas Plain, further North -- a coastal plain stretching out to the sea, enclosed by hills. Like the Salinas plain, we are subject to thick fog in the spring and summer, when inland temperatures warm up. Teas, Chinas and Noisettes are our best bets here. Northern European Once-Bloomers do not flourish here -- it's the "Evergreen" roses we need. Powdery mildew and rust are our normal fungal problems. When it is humid enough for blackspot, it is for the most part far too cool for that disease. (Mme. Driout mildews spectacularly here, btw., and Souv. de la Malmaison simply will not open.) Ron -- We might get to come your way after the Celebration Of Old Roses, this May 21. I hope we will see you there, too. Jeri Jennings | ||
| Ron Robertson (Lemecdutex) Bug Squisher Username: lemecdutex Post Number: 22 Registered: 01-2006 |
Allison, only the interior of California has hot summers. I think it was Mark Twain that said the coldest winter he ever went through was summer in San Francisco. This was my first full year of living in Northern California, and this past summer was an exceptionally cool one for here, so we had nights as low as the upper 30s in August twice, if you can imagine! As I'm from the hot, humid south, you can imagine I didn't think of complaining, I felt like I'd moved to paradise (and other than the gophers and a few pesky foliar diseases, I have)! Incidentally, anyone who'd like to visit us is welcome to do so, just let me know you're coming. --Ron | ||
| Allison Strong (Countess_wildrose) Bug Squisher Username: countess_wildrose Post Number: 14 Registered: 01-2006 |
Sam, everyone I know tells me California- all of the state- is a great place to grow roses, and I can hardly wait to see it! Hot summers and mild winters are perfect, aren't they? How do you keep enough water on the roses in the heat, do you hand water, use soaker hoses, or have an irrigation system? (I have to do a bit of all three, due to the odd configuration of where all my beds are in relation to the water well.) It is so good to see so many familiar friends here on this forum. Ron, thanks for letting me know your hours. I have your place on my list of "must see" venues! Moonlight is one HM that I do not have (yet). I have several on the edge of the woods, where they will get shade in the mornings, but still get plenty sunlight in the afternoons. All are at the one year old age now, and I hope they will all bloom a bit this spring. Yes, SdlM is the BEST Bourbon, except for maybe "Maggie". That is a tough choice for me, I love them both! | ||
| Ron Robertson (Lemecdutex) Bug Squisher Post Number: 9 Registered: 01-2006 |
Hi Allison, Yes, I remember you. Certainly you're welcome to come visit our garden in June, should be a wonderful month! We're open Wed-Sun from 10:00 to 5:00 p.m. I used to grow a fair number of bourbons, as well as HPs when I lived out there. Of course, they do better with spraying (I used to do one of those baking soda-type sprays). As you know, though, the ones that did outstandingly well were the teas and tea-noisettes. Polyanthas are also good choices, and it's hard to beat Clothilde Soupert, both climbing and shrub form (I typically planted the shrub at the base of the climber to get a fuller "picture"). For Bourbons, you really should grow Souvenir de la Malmaison out there, that was always a favorite for me, both climber and shrub. For a different sort of HP (I think it is), Mme Driout is pretty spectacular, but it does make a pretty big climber. I did well with Hybrid Musks, too. Moonlight just took off for me there, and covered and archway beautifully. Hi Sam! We're doing fine up here. How about down there? Lots of rain up here these days, but pretty mild overall for the last 6 weeks. Daffodils are blooming, even one of the tree peonies are blooming. Not much in the way of rose bloom, however, especially since we're heavy into the pruning season now. --Ron | ||
| Samantha Mooney (Matissesmom) Bug Squisher Post Number: 4 Registered: 09-2004 |
Well, Ron, Happy New Year! How are things? Allison, I have hot dry summers and very mild winters. I think I'm finally figuring out which roses I should have, that like my climate. I might as well have roses that bloom almost year round as my climate will support them and they are quite happy and growing like weeds. This should be an interesting category... Sam | ||
| Allison Strong (Countesswildrose) Bug Squisher Post Number: 10 Registered: 01-2006 |
Hi Ron. We have "spoken" before on GW, (I was Wild Rose of Texas, and live east of Willis- we talked about your sister still living near Lake Conroe...) I certainly envy the beautiful conditions you have for those Bourbons! I will be in California in June, and I want to look up your garden while there if that is convenient? Bourbons do not do so well for me, excepting the marvelous "Maggie", but the teas, chinas, and noisettes ROCK. Scant freezes this winter are giving us a whole lot of new growth all over the place right now. Safrano is filled with purple-bronze leaflets. It is going to be a wonderful spring! | ||
| Ron Robertson (Lemecdutex) Bug Squisher Post Number: 8 Registered: 01-2006 |
I think generally they're talking about climates without much winter. And cold climates are ones that have pretty severe winters (probably zone 6 or 7 and colder). However, where I live now, we have mild winters (generally), but also mild summers. Not like the weather there in East Texas (yes, I've had lots of gardening experience there, as that's where I grew up and had a 10-acre garden before moving to California). So, I'm not sure where I'd belong in this, but probably here. I will say one that that's interesting to me here in Northern California is how well bourbons grow. I've got Reine Victoria and its sport Mme Pierre Oger, and they just took off here. So did my Hybrid China roses. Beau Narcisse shot up from a band to a 7 or 8' plant in just this one growing season! I thought things grew fast in Fresno, but this... | ||
| Allison Strong (Countesswildrose) Bug Squisher Post Number: 5 Registered: 01-2006 |
Looks as though this is a brand new category for the HRF forum. This site is gearing up for lots of coming growth, which is absolutely delightful! My home and garden are in zone 8b, so I'd take a guess, and say this is the right area of the site for me to be. Teas, chinas, noisettes, hybrid musks, tender species, and many of the wonderful newer shrub roses all do very well in my area, about one hour north of Houston, Texas. Who would care to make a jab at setting parameters for these heat or cold zone boundaries? I like the idea of having these specifics to work with! |