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Linda Buzzell-Saltzman (Linda)
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Post Number: 42
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Monday, December 04, 2006 - 12:22 pm:   

Hi Allison,

I'll be eager to hear how the recipe(s) turn out!
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Allison Strong (Countess_wildrose)
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Post Number: 185
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 04:51 pm:   

Betty!
Thank you so very much! I have one, if not both of the two books you mentioned, so I can look the recipe up for myself!
Merci beaucoup!
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Betty Vickers (Bettyv)
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Post Number: 23
Registered: 09-2004
Posted on Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 10:24 am:   

Allison,

I found two other recipes for rose beads, each different from the other. One recipe is in Liz Druitt’s The Organic Rose Garden (1996 edition, page 193). The other is in Dr. Welch’s Antique Roses for the South (1990 edition, page 105). Good luck!

Betty
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Allison Strong (Countess_wildrose)
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Post Number: 183
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 08:32 am:   

Linda, thanks for the reminder about the rose beads. I don't have the reference book, but I will look around to see what I can find to complete the recipe. With so many rose bushes here now, it would be a shame not to make lots and lots of rose necklaces. I seem to recall in the book I had once read about making these beads, that a century ago or so, it was popular to make a rosary of these beads, and many good Catholic ladies would have these made or make their own. I work with a charming older lady who is devout, who would probably treasure a gift like that. I will look around online to see if I can find some sterling silver beads to use to make this for her. And of course some silver beads, and some of the various types of gemstone beads they use in jewelry making would "dress up" the regular bracelets and necklaces we could make with rose beads... you have inspired me to start a new hobby, I think!

Allison
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Linda Buzzell-Saltzman (Linda)
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Post Number: 38
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 03:30 pm:   

Hi Allison,

For info on how to make rose beads, go to pp 138-140 of Jean Gordon's "The Art of Cooking with Roses" or p 45 of "Rose Recipes from Olden Times" by Eleanour Sinclair Rohde. It's kind of a complicated recipe so I won't post it here, but basically you chop or grind petals, cook in water (don't boil)and make a paste of it. Then you grease your hands and roll the mixture between the fingers to form balls. String on wire, moving the beads as they dry to keep the hole free. Some cook them in a rusty iron saucepan to make them black. You can also add paint to color the beads, I believe. Sounds like a fun home craft project! Good luck!
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Allison Strong (Countess_wildrose)
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Post Number: 180
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 07:22 pm:   

Linda, that is great information. I recall it was fairly popular a few years ago to use rose petals for lots of recipes and as garnishes.

There is a recipe somewhere for using rose petals for cooking down into a mush that you can form into beads and make a fragrant necklace. Do you happen to know of that? I would love to make some of those next spring, little necklaces for the little girls in the family. A good way to start them off young to appreciate the unexpected!
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Ron Robertson (Lemecdutex)
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Post Number: 70
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 05:27 pm:   

Thanks for posting that information, Linda. That's actually quite interesting.

--Ron
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Linda Buzzell-Saltzman (Linda)
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Post Number: 36
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 01:14 pm:   

I've done a little additional research since I posted Friday. I hope I'm not boring y'all with my fiddling around with roses as edibles, but if any of you have thoughts or recommendations re. the following roses or others and their chances
of growing in warm climate Zone 10 Santa Barbara, I'd be appreciative... From what I gather, the tastiest petals come from red roses that are highly fragrant.

My goal in all this is to be able to give a list of recommended roses and recipes (for food, potpourri etc.) that utilize petals, leaves
and hips to local gardeners for their edible, cottage and herb gardens. Most roses recommended in the old books grow well elsewhere...

The roses below were recommended in "Rose Recipes" by Rohde. Some are
old HTs like 'Etoile de Hollande' and 'General MacArthur', and others
are roses that probably won't like it here.

‘Autumn Damask,’

‘Chateau de Clos Vougeaut’, HT Pernet-Ducher, 1908. Flat, old
fashioned, deep crimson blooms. Unusual low and spreading growth
habit. Fragrant.

‘Etoile de Hollande,’ HT 1919, Holland. “Deep velvety crimson
brightened by scarlet.” Strong damask fragrance. 2-3 feet
tall. ‘General MacArthur’ x ‘Hadley’. Susceptible to mildew. Vintage
says “performs well in cool coastal climates where other reds sulk.”
Vintage has a good, old clone of this.

‘General Macarthur’, HT 1905, deep pink, Damask fragrance. 4-5’ and
there’s a climbing sport too. Parentage: Gruss an Teplitz. Named
after Arthur MacArthur, American general, born 2 June 1845 in
Springfield, Massachusetts. Died 5 September 1912 in Milwaukee,
Wisconsin, the father of the WWII general.

‘George Dickson’, HT Dickson 1912, Ireland. Medium red, strong tea
fragrance. Susceptible to mildew.

‘Gruss an Teplitz,’ Bourbon-China, Geshwind 1897, Hungary. Medium
red, strong fragrance. 5’ – 6’7” Parentage: Seed [Sir Joseph Paxton
x Fellenberg] x Papa Gontier. Pollen: Gloire des Rosomanes

‘Kazanlik’, Damask. Once blooming. Pure pink flowers. Fragrant.

‘Mme Isaac Periere’ Bourbon, Garcon 1881. Claret-pink, amaranth and
magenta flowers. Highly fragrant.

‘Mrs John Laing’, Hybrid Perpetual, 1887, Henry Bennett UK. Med
pink. Strong tea fragrance. Large-petalled, cupped blooms. Almost
thornless. 3-7’. Very disease resistant. Francois Michelon x Seedling.

R. officinalis
Centifolia, Gallica
Damask roses
Rugosa
R. canina – use leaves for tea, hips for tea, jam etc.
Bourbons ‘Mme Isaac Periere’, ‘Parfum de l’Haye’
Eglantine – use leaves in ice cubes

Linda
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Linda Buzzell-Saltzman (Linda)
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Post Number: 34
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 09:34 am:   

I just re-read "The Art of Cooking with Roses" by Jean Gorden and it has lots of inspirational recipes! I'd like to include more culinary roses in our permaculture "backyard food forest"/edible landscaping but so many that are recommended in the book as yielding particularly tasty petals, leaves or hips don't necessarily like our warm climate and alkaline clay soil (rugosas, eglantine etc.) I wondered if any of you on this list have any favorites to recommend?

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