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     Robert Neil Rippetoe (Psroseguy) Powdery Mildew Username: PSroseguy Post Number: 3 Registered: 09-2004 |
My Souvenir de Pierre et Notting gets root competition from a large palm which might explain it's reduced size. Still I can't imagine it would exceed 4-5' here in the frost free CA low desert. | ||
| Jeri Jennings (Jeri) Supreme Crown Gall ! Username: Jeri Post Number: 523 Registered: 01-2006 |
Robert, I guess it COULD be a climber -- or could have sported to one -- but to be honest, all of our really really mature Teas are BIG. Rozette Delizy's probably the biggest, at a good 12-ft. Very upright and bushy. Some of the others are more "spready," since in their early years, we used to prune them. But heck, if you go to the Sacramento City Cemetery, 10-12-ft-tall Tea Roses just aren't that uncommon. | ||
| Allison Strong (Countess_wildrose) Bug Squisher Username: countess_wildrose Post Number: 168 Registered: 01-2006 |
Well, I want one really really really badly! How large will it get in zone 8b? | ||
| Robert Neil Rippetoe (Psroseguy) Powdery Mildew Username: PSroseguy Post Number: 2 Registered: 09-2004 |
Wow Jeri, are you sure yours isn't the climbing version? Mine is several years old and only about 3' tall. | ||
| Jeri Jennings (Jeri) Rowdy Rosarian Username: Jeri Post Number: 415 Registered: 01-2006 |
What I need to do -- and I will do it this winter -- is to take poor Souv. de Pierre Notting out of his deeply-shaded location, and put him somewhere where he can grow up as a normal plant. If I have another decade to wait, I suspect he CAN reach 10 ft. here. I have another rose growing next to him. It is covered with tiny buds, and growing like a small ground-cover. The blooms are either white or blush, and I suspect it MAY be 'Nozomi.' I just have no recollection of acquiring Nozomi. <sigh> I must say, whatever-it=is seems to be wholly untroubled by growing in deep shade. Jeri | ||
| Carol Meyer (Carolfm) Bug Squisher Username: carolfm Post Number: 11 Registered: 01-2006 |
Wow, Jeri! Mine is 4-5 ft at most after 4 years! Guess our winter most slow it down considerably! I love this rose but I'm glad mine isn't 10 ft tall. Now, my other Teas are monsters for the most part. Carol | ||
| Siri Amrit (Siriamrit) Greenhorn Username: Siriamrit Post Number: 5 Registered: 05-2006 |
Thanks, Jeri. | ||
| stephen scanniello (Steprose) Supreme Crown Gall ! Username: steprose Post Number: 435 Registered: 01-2006 |
see, there ya go! ss | ||
| Jeri Jennings (Jeri) Rowdy Rosarian Username: Jeri Post Number: 336 Registered: 01-2006 |
You know Linda, I think it really wants to be a bush. This one is just attentuated, because it has no sun. But you might ask Kim Rupert. I know he said he could sell a million of it at that nursery in Malibu, because it's so bulletproof. And yes. "Setzer Noisette" looks to be one of those Noisettes that blooms in real MASS. If you like that one, you might want to consider "Georgetown Noisette" (which is a delicate pink in cool weather -- that one also wants to climb. And in bush form, 'Blush Noisette,' 'Placerville White Noisette" ("Jacob Zeisz") and "Roseville Noisette." Those are all set to explode here. Jeri | ||
| Siri Amrit (Siriamrit) Greenhorn Username: Siriamrit Post Number: 4 Registered: 05-2006 |
Hi, Jeri! Would you say it could be trained as a climber on a trellis? Or does it want to be a big, fat bush like Mrs B.R. Cant? BTW, my Setzer Noisette is only about a foot high and is blooming it's head off. I think it's going to become a favorite. | ||
| Siri Amrit (Siriamrit) Greenhorn Username: Siriamrit Post Number: 3 Registered: 05-2006 |
Thanks, Stephen. Already this has become my "must read" rose forum. | ||
| Jeri Jennings (Jeri) Rowdy Rosarian Username: Jeri Post Number: 335 Registered: 01-2006 |
Hi Siri! I have Souv. de Pierre Notting, but he is in an odd situation. He is planted at the foot of a Sally Holmes which grew up to become a tree, so he has become somewhat angular and attenuated, trying to reach the sun. He had one cane about 10 ft. long which I pulled up through SH and Rosette Delizy, and I visualized him blooming up there -- BUT DH went back and for some unexplained reason cut that off. :-( Anyhow, I think he has the potential to bcome easily 10-12 ft. tall. The really good news is that he never rusts or mildews, and is never out of bloom. Very popular coastal rose, for that reason. Jeri Jennings Winter-Free Coastal Ventura Co., Southern CA | ||
| stephen scanniello (Steprose) Supreme Crown Gall ! Username: steprose Post Number: 433 Registered: 01-2006 |
Hello Siri, welcome to our forum! I'm sure someone from a warm zone will jump in to discuss Souvenir de Pierre Notting, but I just wanted a chance to say hello, and have fun! stephen | ||
| Siri Amrit (Siriamrit) Greenhorn Username: Siriamrit Post Number: 1 Registered: 05-2006 |
Hi, all. My first post. This is a GREAT forum; it's nice to see friends here. Can anyone tell me the growth habit of Souvenir de Pierre Notting in a place that never gets any winter? And, is there a way to make threads read from top to bottom (oldest messages on top) instead from bottom to top? Thanks! |