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doug musso (Dougmusso)
Greenhorn
Username: dougmusso

Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 07:17 am:   

where can i learn about rooting cuttings my secret garden musk rose
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Jeri Jennings (Jeri)
Supreme Crown Gall !
Username: Jeri

Post Number: 574
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 02:50 pm:   

Shhhhhh . . . We won't tell him, eh?
Tell him it is a Miniature. :-)
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Mel Hulse (Kernel)
Bug Squisher
Username: kernel

Post Number: 128
Registered: 09-2004
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 02:43 pm:   

Poor Clay!

I just brought Guadalupe Volunteer home to have it at hand when we come down to Ralph's Birthday. It is not too big...yet!

Mel
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Jeri Jennings (Jeri)
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Username: Jeri

Post Number: 573
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 09:29 am:   

Jeffrey -- My DH already doesn't know that 'Guadalupe Volunteer'

is coming in a couple of weeks. He DOES know how big normalis gets, so I think I'll remain cautious. We already have banksiae banksiae, banksiae normalis, Fortuniana, Silver Moon, and three Secret Garden Musk Climbers.
BTW, that violet scent -- banksiae banksiae does it, too. The strongest I ever smelled it was on a providentially-cool April morning in Tombstone, under that famous "Tombstone Rose." It's a WOW.
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Jeffrey Parnell (Gerome)
Greenhorn
Username: Gerome

Post Number: 5
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 09:07 am:   

Jeri...
That's SOME rose! Mine is still young, so hasn't bloomed yet. I can only hope my baby gets as large. I want it to cover a pergola at my Mom's.

Did you notice a scent? I'm told it's reminiscent of violets...

BTW, Vintage Gardens has B. normalis in stock right now as an own root band for $15.50. I also bought B. lutescens (NOT 'B. lutea') last Fall. That's also available right now.

This is not an ad for them, but they're my favorite nursery. Never had any problems...
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Behcet Fenercioglu (Jedmar)
Powdery Mildew
Username: jedmar

Post Number: 39
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 10:31 pm:   

Good news! Thank you all. We do not use Roundup over here anyway. I will pass on your recommendations.
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Jeri Jennings (Jeri)
Supreme Crown Gall !
Username: Jeri

Post Number: 572
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 08:40 pm:   

OH! I have ALWAYS wanted to have R. banksiae normalis! Here it is as I saw it last spring, in the Sacramento City Cemetery!
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Jeffrey Parnell (Gerome)
Greenhorn
Username: Gerome

Post Number: 4
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 06:54 pm:   

Lady Banks grows here in the Atlanta area (zone 7b) and I have a Banksia normalis in my own collection which still has all its foliage. That's unusual, but it's been a relatively mild winter so far. My roses are all own root, so if the worst happens and there's a bad freeze, my plant can probably regrow.
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Jeffrey Parnell (Gerome)
Greenhorn
Username: Gerome

Post Number: 3
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 06:54 pm:   

Lady Banks groes here in the Atlanta area (zone 7b) and I have a Banksia normalis in my own collection which still has all its foliage. That's unusual, but it's been a relatively mild winter so far. My roses are all own root, so if the worst happens and there's a bad freeze, my plant can probably regrow.
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ann peck (Anntn6b)
Bug Squisher
Username: anntn6b

Post Number: 181
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 09:41 am:   

I have Fortune's Double Yellow growing in a cold pocket at the bottom of our hill and it is zone 6b. The bush has been here for going on six years and has very little dieback.
R. laevigata grows near by and continues to get larger and larger.
Its offspring Mermaid grows vigorously in a no spray garden in Asheville NC (zone 6a) in an exposed situation where it cloaks a chain link fence and does so beautifully.

One thing unites these roses: they are neither overfertilized nor are they coddled. No winter protection is given to any of them.
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Jeri Jennings (Jeri)
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Username: Jeri

Post Number: 570
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 09:26 am:   

FWIW, as far as I can tell, much of the Gold Rush country -- the Sierra Nevada Foothills of California -- lies in Zone 7.
Old plants of Fortune's Double Yellow have survived there for 100 years or more, as have old Tea Roses and many China Roses. Once firmly ESTABLISHED, they seem to do well on their own roots there -- despite winter cold, summer drought, and deer. (What gets 'em is Roundup.)
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Olga Galperina (Olga_6b)
Powdery Mildew
Username: Olga_6b

Post Number: 31
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 06:04 am:   

My friend grows Marmaid in zone 6B MD (on the porder with PA) and it survived two really cold winters several years ago with not much dieback. He grows it like a climber, not ground cover, and it is a reasonable size climber for him, not a monster.
Olga
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stephen scanniello (Steprose)
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Username: steprose

Post Number: 758
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 04:23 am:   

Mermaid is hardy in 7, it doesn't grow as out of control as it would in warmer climates. I've grown it in 6 as well, but more like a ground cover with winter protection.

Lady Banks has survived 7, against a brick wall

No luck with Fortune's DY in 7.
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Behcet Fenercioglu (Jedmar)
Powdery Mildew
Username: jedmar

Post Number: 38
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 03:35 am:   

Someone over here in Central Europe is asking whether Fortune's Double Yellow, Lady Banks and Mermaid are hardy in Zone 7. These roses are not well known over here. We have one case where Mermaid is ok in Zone 7a on a south wall. Does anyone living in Zone 7 in the States have them? Or is it a clear no no?

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