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     Catherine O'Connor (Cocon11) Powdery Mildew Username: cocon11 Post Number: 11 Registered: 01-2009 |
Stephen sorry for the delay. Just letting you know there are no sticky glands or a soft moss-like growth on either stalk or flower bud. There are only lots of small thorns on the stalk which are very sharp. | ||
| Catherine O'Connor (Cocon11) Powdery Mildew Username: cocon11 Post Number: 10 Registered: 01-2009 |
Had a look on the internet at Gallica St. Nicholas. Am I correct that it was developed in 1950? If so it is not old enough for my rose. | ||
| Catherine O'Connor (Cocon11) Powdery Mildew Username: cocon11 Post Number: 9 Registered: 01-2009 |
Lynette, they certainly look similar in some photos. Will investigate. Thank you for you time. Your garden must be magnificent. | ||
| Lynnette Callan (The_oldrosarian) Bug Squisher Username: The_oldrosarian Post Number: 8 Registered: 11-2004 |
Do you think your rose could be a Gallica called St. Nicholas? Here is a photo of St. Nicholas in my garden on my website under the Gallicas heading.. http://www.theoldrosarian.com/ | ||
| Catherine O'Connor (Cocon11) Powdery Mildew Username: cocon11 Post Number: 8 Registered: 01-2009 |
I don't have the rose in my garden though I am getting a cutting soon. It is on the property at Bigriggen where it was found. The plant in the picture is a mature plant but it is pruned fairly well. There is another bush in the garden that isn't pruned very often and it's about 2 foot high. Linda who has the plant said, "I was actually looking at it late this afternoon, and it looks like it could climb. It also has thorns all the way along the branches." | ||
| stephen scanniello (Steprose) Supreme Crown Gall ! Username: steprose Post Number: 1025 Registered: 01-2006 |
au fait?? are there sticky glands, or a soft moss-like growth on the stalk of the flower and/or on closed flower bud? | ||
| Catherine O'Connor (Cocon11) Powdery Mildew Username: cocon11 Post Number: 7 Registered: 01-2009 |
Stephen I am not 'au fait' with many aspects of rose growing so please excuse my ignorance. Can you explain to me the meaning of a mossy or glandular bud? | ||
| Catherine O'Connor (Cocon11) Powdery Mildew Username: cocon11 Post Number: 6 Registered: 01-2009 |
Larry I think that it is youngish.... I will need to check when it ws planted. Thanks. | ||
| stephen scanniello (Steprose) Supreme Crown Gall ! Username: steprose Post Number: 1024 Registered: 01-2006 |
from the second image posting, it looks as though the bud is mossy? glandular? | ||
| Larry Sagen (Wirosarian) Greenhorn Username: wirosarian Post Number: 5 Registered: 01-2008 |
In your first post, you show a photo of the entire rose bush & it appears to be fairly small, probably under 3 ft. (1 m.) in height. Is that its mature size or is this a young plant? If it is a mature plant, the suggestion of a Portland type rose might be more accurate because in my garden most of my Hyb. Perp. & Bourbons are quite tall but Portlands are smaller. | ||
| Catherine O'Connor (Cocon11) Greenhorn Username: cocon11 Post Number: 5 Registered: 01-2009 |
I was advised to look at the 'Portland' roses by a kind correspondent. I don't know but there are some pictures which are I believe identical. http://www.helpmefind.com/plant/pl.php?n=1652 What do others think? | ||
| Catherine O'Connor (Cocon11) Greenhorn Username: cocon11 Post Number: 4 Registered: 01-2009 |
Yes Jill. I think the Bigriggen has less petals though. | ||
| Jill Perry (Oldtearoses) Shovel Pruner Username: oldtearoses Post Number: 38 Registered: 09-2004 |
It reminds me of the rose sold as Rose Edouard, the original Bourbon rose: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=5472&tab=1 Jill | ||
| Catherine O'Connor (Cocon11) Greenhorn Username: cocon11 Post Number: 3 Registered: 01-2009 |
I have extra information about the rose. BIGRIGGEN ROSE – DETAILS & BOTANICAL FEATURES PROVISIONAL NAME: Bigriggen Rose SEEMINGLY IN WHICH GROUP: Hybrid Pertetual?? ORIGINAL LOCATION: Mt Barney, Qld. ESTIMATED AGE OF PROPERTY: Settled in late 1870’s MAIN FLOWER COLOUR: Medium pale pink BUD UNOPENED: Almost round BLOOM FORM: Petals are rounded almost cup-shaped – orbicular BLOOM SEASON: Mainly Spring and some in Autumn BLOOM SIZE: Approx 8cm across BLOOM PEDICEL: Stiff BLOOM FRAGRANCE: Strongly perfumed LEAF COLOUR: Mature - dull dark green above, markedly much paler green below, New leaf – reddish to bronze LEAF NUMBER: Mostly five leaflets, occasionally seven– Foliage rather sparse LEAF TEXTURE: Rather leathery LEAF SIZE, LEAF: 15cm LEAFLET TERMINAL 7cm MID 5cm BASE 4cm LEAF SHAPE TIP: Not acutely pointed MID : very rounded to point BASE: As above LEAF MARGIN: Regularly serrate, with minute prickles terminating with red glands dotted along serrations. LEAF RACHIS: Grooved, densely covered with fine minute green prickles terminating in red glands. LEAF PETIOLES: Short, leaf unequal-sided at base LEAF FRAGRANCE: Slightly aromatic PRICKLES: NEW Reddish, OLD Brown ORIGINAL BUSH: Upright, long ranging cane, tending to be multistemmed, easily suckering DISEASE: None noted, extremely hardy  | ||
| Catherine O'Connor (Cocon11) Greenhorn Username: cocon11 Post Number: 2 Registered: 01-2009 |
Thanks Larry. I see what you mean... many more petals. | ||
| Larry Sagen (Wirosarian) Greenhorn Username: wirosarian Post Number: 4 Registered: 01-2008 |
It might be the Hyb. Perpetual La Reine but the La Reine I have appears to have a higher petal count than the flower you have pictured & more "cupped" shape. Below is a link to some photos of La Reine: http://www.helpmefind.com/plant/pl.php?n=3676&tab=10 | ||
| Catherine O'Connor (Cocon11) Greenhorn Username: cocon11 Post Number: 1 Registered: 01-2009 |
I am trying to find out what this rose is. Someone has suggested a hybrid La Reine. Any further ideas? How old do you think it may be? Hope you can help.   |