| Author | Message | ||
     Jeri Jennings (Jeri) Rowdy Rosarian Username: Jeri Post Number: 455 Registered: 01-2006 |
Probably not Fa, but you never know 'til you try. :-) | ||
| Fara Shimbo (Fara_shimbo) Shovel Pruner Username: Fara Shimbo Post Number: 116 Registered: 04-2006 |
I have just GOT to get a greenhouse! I'd love to have that rose but I'm sure it won't grow here. | ||
| Jeri Jennings (Jeri) Rowdy Rosarian Username: Jeri Post Number: 441 Registered: 01-2006 |
 Here you go. This is the only way I have found to photograph it, and show all the colors, since they are in their own separate areas of the plant. It's a unique rose, that's for SURE. And ours is close to 20 ft. tall (or would be, were it not laying back against the hillside, in a sort of decadent manner). :-) Jeri | ||
| Sandra Burket (Sburket) Bug Squisher Username: sburket Post Number: 13 Registered: 10-2004 |
Hi Jeri, My 'Smith's Parish' is 7 or 8 years old, and has never produced more than one red rose at a time. It does produce the red banding, but never a pink, half-red, half-pink, etc as yours has. It's somewhat shaded by an arbor covered with evergreen wisteria. Maybe full sun makes the difference? Could you post a picture of yours when it's in full bloom? It's one of the most trouble free roses I have in my garden, nothing seems to deter its bloom cycle. | ||
| Jeri Jennings (Jeri) Rowdy Rosarian Username: Jeri Post Number: 440 Registered: 01-2006 |
Sandra -- How mature is your Smith's Parish? I ask, because ours is, oh, 15-16 years old at least. It blooms in every possible combination, profusely. Solid white, solid red, solid pink with a soft white "eye." White with red streaks. Half-white, half-red, white with a pink cast. It is quite spectacular. One of my lifetime ambitions is to enter a bouquet of this at an ARS Rose show, and be there to watch the judges scratch their heads. <g> Jeri | ||
| Sandra Burket (Sburket) Bug Squisher Username: sburket Post Number: 12 Registered: 10-2004 |
Malcolm, would you elaborate on the term, "chimera", as it relates to 'Smith's Parish'? Does the word refer to the ability of 'Smith's Parish' to produce a significantly different colored rose from what it normally produces? My 'Smith's Parish" produces that one, red rose once or twice a year, and although I haven't tagged the stem that produces the red rose, it does appear in the same area of the bush each time. | ||
| Malcolm M Manners (Mmanners) Bug Squisher Username: mmanners Post Number: 35 Registered: 10-2004 |
Well, if you're thinking species, what about any of the red R. chinensis, R. moyesii (red forms), etc.? I was thinking you meant among hybrids. | ||
| Fara Shimbo (Fara_shimbo) Shovel Pruner Username: Fara Shimbo Post Number: 115 Registered: 04-2006 |
The yellows, pinks and whites I'm thinking of are all species roses; rosa foetida, multiflora and woodsii, say (unless I'm very much mistaken, which happens often enough). Was just wondering if there might be such a thing as a true red version of something like this, that when crossed with itself will give only its own color or perhaps white. Curious to do some genetic tests and I'm trying to collect my foundation stock carefully. | ||
| Malcolm M Manners (Mmanners) Bug Squisher Username: mmanners Post Number: 34 Registered: 10-2004 |
Fara, I'm not aware of any true-breeding rose, other than a selfed species. What pinks, yellows, and whites are you aware of? Roses are among the most extraordinarily heterozygous of any crop I'm aware of. Pure white -- 'Smith's Parish', a Bermuda Mystery rose is apparently a chimera, and many of the flowers will be pure white, although some will show a stripe of red or occasionally an all-red flower. Branches that are producing all-white flowers also produce pale, yellow-green new growth, whereas branches which are producing red pigment in the flowers will have the usual coppery-red new foliage of so many roses. | ||
| Fara Shimbo (Fara_shimbo) Shovel Pruner Username: Fara Shimbo Post Number: 114 Registered: 04-2006 |
Is there such a thing? I know there are pinks and yellows and whites... Speaking of whites, is there such a thing as a pure white rose, without any yellow or pink, even in the buds, or pink or red on new foliage? |