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Lisa Ishimuro (Lisa_ishimuro)
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 06:49 am:   

Thanks for all the feedback. I bought one of each from Vintage, one has 4 buds on it! When they bloom I will try to take photos and post. Thanks everyone! Lisa
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Jeri Jennings (Jeri)
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Username: Jeri

Post Number: 689
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 06:34 pm:   

Yup. Thanks Ann.
Yes. Amanda Patenaude.

The rose which was sold as, is TPFG.

As it was told to me, Mike Lowe obtained it from the Huntington as "McGregor Damask." John McG said he had no idea how it got THAT name, and that it had to have been Fred Boutin's Found Rose "The Portland From Glendora."

For some time, apparently, there was a belief that the so-called Amanda Patenaude was different from TPFG/Joasine Hanet. But after the two had been grown fairly close together for a few years, it became obvious that they were the same.

So -- Anyone who bought "Amanda Patenaude" has 'Joasine Hanet'/"The Portland From Glendora"/"Aunt Sally"/"Glendora"/"McGregor Damask".

Jeri
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ann peck (Anntn6b)
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Username: anntn6b

Post Number: 221
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 05:57 pm:   

Jeri,
Does Amanda Patenaude or something like it ring a bell?
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stephen scanniello (Steprose)
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Username: steprose

Post Number: 880
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 03:52 pm:   

I purchased the Glendora rose from a nursery in New Hampshire, sold to me as 'McGregor's Damask'. When I published a photo of this rose, with that name, the same nursery told me I had incorrectly identified it.....
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Jeri Jennings (Jeri)
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Username: Jeri

Post Number: 688
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 02:48 pm:   

I thought it has been tentatively indentified as Joasine Hanet Jeri - but the early descriptions that we have on Joasine Hanet are too sketchy aren't they for a positive id.

*** Pat, I have honestly not read the contemporary descriptions -- but Brent Dickerson and Fred Boutin have, apparently, and they seem comfortable with that identity.
There is one other name under which that rose has been distributed. I'm having a senior moment, but it is a woman's name. It came to Ashdown under that name from ?Mike Lowe? and was offered by them.
After several years, Ashdown AND Lowe at last concluded that it was identical to "TPFG."

Jeri
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Pat Toolan (Pat_toolan)
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Username: Pat_toolan

Post Number: 8
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 07:01 pm:   

I thought it has been tentatively indentified as Joasine Hanet Jeri - but the early descriptions that we have on Joasine Hanet are too sketchy aren't they for a positive id.
Yes I have found it in Australia and it is mentioned on early catalogues and we do have slightly alkaline soils and it doesn't seem to mind it. It is always a great looking plant for me and copes with moderately saline water as well with no edging to the leaves. When it is in flower I always get a newby to smell the perfume - a swoonable perfume!
The crepe rose is also found in Australia and it is a great doer as well. Coping any conditions thrown at it.
Well that is in our up to 110F in summer and maybe down to -7F(or should that be C) in frosty autumns and spring.
Pat in South Australia
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stephen scanniello (Steprose)
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Username: steprose

Post Number: 877
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 05:04 pm:   

Glendora - good plant for our neck of the woods, too. It could be coaxed as a short climber, but makes a great shrub. Once established, a repeat bloomer.
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Jeri Jennings (Jeri)
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Username: Jeri

Post Number: 687
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 11:43 am:   

"Glendora" is "The Portland From Glendora" also "McGregor Damask," and latterly identified as 'Joasine Hanet.' It's been found in many places in California (and I believe in Australia, as well).

Here, it is a tall, graceful plant with great repeat, bearing large numbers of moderately-sized, very fragrant, deeply-quartered blooms. It does not appreciate alkaline conditions, but other than that has very good disease-resistance.
Everyone needs one. :-)

Jeri Jennings
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Lisa Ishimuro (Lisa_ishimuro)
Powdery Mildew
Username: lisa_ishimuro

Post Number: 8
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 08:19 am:   

Does anyone have any experience growing these two roses?

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