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     stephen scanniello (Steprose) Bug Squisher Username: steprose Post Number: 346 Registered: 01-2006 |
ohh, yeah, the houseboat. When I moved my computer to the Panther level (mac talk), I've had a few issues with scanning. Let's see if I can sort that out, finally , this weekend.. | ||
| Baldo Villegas (Sactorose) Bug Squisher Username: sactorose Post Number: 14 Registered: 04-2005 |
Cindi: Baldo is here too. | ||
| Jeri Jennings (Jeri) Bug Squisher Username: Jeri Post Number: 226 Registered: 01-2006 |
HI CINDI! Cass is here, too. So is Kernel Mel Hulse. And Rozanna, and Allison ... Hail Hail, more of the gang showing up all the time. :-) Jeri Jennings | ||
| Carla Parker (Carla14) Powdery Mildew Username: Carla14 Post Number: 2 Registered: 04-2006 |
Now I know where the beautiful photos are! Jeri, I have missed you and thought about you recently. You were always so helpful when I asked questions and I also miss your amazing rose pictures. I am new here but it already seems friendly. Nice to see you Cindi. Carla | ||
| Jeri Jennings (Jeri) Bug Squisher Username: Jeri Post Number: 142 Registered: 01-2006 |
At least you ARE getting some rain, Allison! Here in Southern CA, we are still bone dry. Dry, dry, dry as dust. They promise we will get rain by tomorrow -- but I've been lied to by weather forecasters before. Jeri Jennings | ||
| Allison Strong (Countess_wildrose) Bug Squisher Username: countess_wildrose Post Number: 28 Registered: 01-2006 |
Hello again, everyone! Just popping back in to say hi, and see if Stephen ever posted any photos of the houseboat and gardens at Barnegat... I'll be patient! We are having a rainy, wet February here in east Texas, and I still have not been able to prune the roses! Every weekend, rain, rain, rain! Many are already in bud, and a few even with the first blooms! | ||
| stephen scanniello (Steprose) Bug Squisher Username: steprose Post Number: 173 Registered: 01-2006 |
thanks for the info, all good stuff to keep on file... | ||
| Cass Bernstein (Cass) Bug Squisher Username: Cass Post Number: 44 Registered: 01-2006 |
FD is 4' x 6' in Mill Valley. | ||
| Jeri Jennings (Jeri) Bug Squisher Username: Jeri Post Number: 84 Registered: 01-2006 |
Cass, I just shake my head when you talk of hard pruning FD/Barcelona. It never got much over 18-in. tall here. Not much to prune -- hard OR soft. We had two of the poor pitiful things, and Clay finally put both of them out of their misery. It's much better at the Stagecoach Inn -- just about 10-mi. further inland's worth of warmth. Makes a plant of almost 3 ft. tall, there, I think. Jeri Jennings | ||
| Cass Bernstein (Cass) Bug Squisher Username: Cass Post Number: 40 Registered: 01-2006 |
The Huntington opened in 1928. I believe that's a fairly good case for 'Barcelona' being part of the original plantings there, since 'Barcelona' was released in 1932. As for Beales's identification of 'FD,' I have no information on that. Someone in Britain might know more. We do know that Bob Edberg imported 'FD' from Beales and gave it to the Huntington as 'FD.' | ||
| stephen scanniello (Steprose) Bug Squisher Username: steprose Post Number: 169 Registered: 01-2006 |
That's a good case for determining that both roses are identical. However, we should find out where the Huntington's came from and where Beales' came from. Wouldn't it be interesting if both came from the same place....maybe the one in England was collected from California, or v/v? | ||
| Cass Bernstein (Cass) Bug Squisher Username: Cass Post Number: 38 Registered: 01-2006 |
Proof is too strong a word without genetic testing....but Kim Rupert noticed that FD and Barcelona at the Huntington are the same rose. Barcelona had been grown there for many, many years, perhaps as part of the original planting. FD was imported from Peter Beales, who had found and identified it as 'Francis Dubreuil.' The importer provided cuttings to the Huntington. Whether the rose is FD or Barcelona is not known. I grow both FD and Barcelona (available through Vintage Gardens), and I can see no difference. I am experimenting with hard-pruning (relative term - hard by California standards) my largest FD, and I can report that it definitely likes it. I'm still waiting for it to produce stems and bloom like that shown in the 1932 American Rose Annual (or is it 1933? I don't have them with me). | ||
| stephen scanniello (Steprose) Bug Squisher Username: steprose Post Number: 168 Registered: 01-2006 |
proof of the switch from FD to Barcelona? | ||
| Jeri Jennings (Jeri) Bug Squisher Username: Jeri Post Number: 83 Registered: 01-2006 |
I'm bringing two teas home from Texas, Mme. Joseph Schwartz and Francis Dubreuil. *** FD -- if he is really not FD at all, but the HT Barcelona -- be interesting to see what he does with your climate . . . Jeri Jennings | ||
| stephen scanniello (Steprose) Bug Squisher Username: steprose Post Number: 167 Registered: 01-2006 |
The Chinas are more durable than the teas. The teas are really curiosity pieces, no where as big as they get in the south or California. I'm bringing two teas home from Texas, Mme. Joseph Schwartz and Francis Dubreuil. Mutabilis seems indesctructible. We're the same distance from the bay as FR, our house is about a mile from Barnegat Bay. I've used Distant Drums (Buck) in East Hampton, NY (close to the ocean) with good results. photos coming soon! | ||
| Allison Strong (Countess_wildrose) Bug Squisher Username: countess_wildrose Post Number: 25 Registered: 01-2006 |
Wow! That is a selection of classes I had not thought possible up in "the frozen north"! So tell us, how much dieback do your teas and chinas suffer? And also, do you grow any of the Buck roses, bred for the midwestern prairies? I am wondering how they would like the salt air of a New England seaside town? (Is Barnegat closer to the water than Forked River? We were able to get some very good fresh Atlantic fish and scallops there in '89...) I'll hope to see photos of your house boat and the Barnegat gardens here in forum gallery in the future! | ||
| stephen scanniello (Steprose) Bug Squisher Username: steprose Post Number: 165 Registered: 01-2006 |
Our houseboat is a classic from the 60's,sort of like the one in the movie with Cary Grant and Sophia Loren, speaking of Italian woman. Believe me, you were probably right about most of those black limos. I grow all types, mostly old roses and climbers/ramblers, here's a sampling: some teas: Lady Hillingdon, Mlle de Sombreuil, Apricot tea (from ARE), Smith's Parish Chinas: Redoute's red; Sophie's Perpetual, Mutabilis, Ramblers: Alexandre Girault, Alberic Barbier, Francois Juranville, "Fairmount Pink Rambler" Climbers: Autumn Sunset, American Pillar, Compassion, Casino, Golden Arctic, White Cap, Gem of the Prairies, Baltimore Belle, Trier, Casa Blanca Others: Madame Plantier, Madame Hardy, Crenshaw Musk, brunonii, Nastarana, Belle Vischysoise, Princess of Nassau, Clytemnestra, Aloha, Mermaid, Bermuda's Kathleen, Yvonne Rabier, Mlle. de Cecile Brunner; Marie Pavie, Clothilde Soupert, Sleeping Beauty, Autumn Bouquet, Rosa primula, hugonis, xanthina, Harrison's Yellow.... | ||
| Allison Strong (Countess_wildrose) Bug Squisher Username: countess_wildrose Post Number: 24 Registered: 01-2006 |
Ah! That's why I don't remember seeing Barnegat, I was always traveling northward to Tom's River for shopping, and further north still up to RI to see my old friends up on Naragansett Bay. But I had to have passed Barnegat at least a couple of times, when we drove down to Atlantic City, and then to the Cape. You will get a big laugh out of this... I was just a very naive, unpolished little bumpkin, and I had never seen so many Italian Americans all driving big black cars in my life! I was convinced they were all part of the Mafia! At least, until I met the family of my dear friend's new husband, the Pisaturo's of Providence. Then I was convinced they were all either Mafia or Saints (the women in that family are downright MEAN, lol, but they can sure cook, and keep their kids in line!) Ok, back to roses! Tell us about drinking martinis on board the houseboat, and how nice the garden must look from that vantage point! (Secret fantasy, I would have liked to be a Bond Girl a zillion years ago.... shaken, not stirred! heehee!) What roses are you growing in Barnegat, and how long is the growing season that far north? | ||
| stephen scanniello (Steprose) Bug Squisher Username: steprose Post Number: 164 Registered: 01-2006 |
Barnegat is two towns south of Forked River, exit 67 on the Parkway. Besides a garden, there is a house boat that serves as a perfect setting for martinis and other gardening refreshments! | ||
| Allison Strong (Countess_wildrose) Bug Squisher Username: countess_wildrose Post Number: 22 Registered: 01-2006 |
Awww, Diane, I think you are right! Stephen IS as cute as a speckled pup! And nobody can talk roses as well as a yankee gard'ner, (as my yankee grandfather told me, anyhow!) (Wish I could grow those beautiful albas and gallicas that Grandmother Breiner had!) I don't remember where Barnegat is, Stephen, so I guess I never went there! I remember the Garden State Parkway was my main route to civilization. My son was in first grade when we were there, and his entire school had 19 students, from kindergarden through eighth grade in Forked River NJ. I remember thinking how small the states were in New England. I could travel through three or four to get to my dear friend's home in Warwich, RI, and that was not even as far as from my home in Texas to Austin, a mere 3 hour drive! | ||
| Diane Watson (Llpnut) Bug Squisher Username: llpnut Post Number: 12 Registered: 01-2006 |
they don't call it 'The Garden State' for nothing, and the food is fantastic that, and the cuteness of speckled pups, how can you say no, Allison? | ||
| stephen scanniello (Steprose) Bug Squisher Username: steprose Post Number: 157 Registered: 01-2006 |
Ah, but you didn't come to Barnegat. | ||
| Allison Strong (Countess_wildrose) Bug Squisher Username: countess_wildrose Post Number: 20 Registered: 01-2006 |
Lol, that would be hard to convince me to do again, Stephen! The company would be peerless, but the cold, even in June!!! My goodness, I lived in Forked River, NJ, in 1989, and thought my toes would never warm up! Cape May (think that was the right name?) was breathtaking in June, though! Flowers everywhere! Where are the most beautiful gardens in Jersey? '89 was pre-garden-fanatica for me! Incidentally, my hat is off to you Stephen, for braving our hot hot hot Texas Summers when you have visited here for ARE talks, etc. Our summers generally last about 10 months of the year, so it is hard to avoid... | ||
| stephen scanniello (Steprose) Bug Squisher Username: steprose Post Number: 149 Registered: 01-2006 |
come to New Jersey! | ||
| Allison Strong (Countess_wildrose) Bug Squisher Username: countess_wildrose Post Number: 18 Registered: 01-2006 |
Thanks, Jeri! I sure hope to get to meet you, also, while in CA! I would love to meet ALL of my online rosey friends! I am wondering if there is a good place or event going on in late June, where that would be possible? My travel dates are not yet carved in granite, so there is time for me to plan, if anyone is interested. | ||
| Jeri Jennings (Jeri) Bug Squisher Username: Jeri Post Number: 66 Registered: 01-2006 |
Allison, Not far from Sam's area there is the wonderful Descanso Gardens International Rosarium, and also the Huntington Botanical Gardens. :-) Jeri Jennings | ||
| Allison Strong (Countess_wildrose) Bug Squisher Username: countess_wildrose Post Number: 16 Registered: 01-2006 |
Hi Sam! Many, many thanks! I would love to meet you, and as many of the California rose crowd as I can while I am there! (I plan to be there in late June, have not confirmed the dates yet though, it will be on the heels of a week vacation with DH. When he has to return to work, I still have some more time off, and California, Here I Come!) I hope to be able to take my camera to visit a lot of the gorgeous rosey places. I have avidly read all the posts about rustling in cemetaries in California, but I never have luck with cuttings in the spring and summer. So I will do my California rustling with a digital camera! Are there any good places around your area to check out? Perhaps we could meet up for a quick lunch and we could visit any nice roses in your area? Just a thought. ~Allison | ||
| Linda Buzzell-Saltzman (Linda) Bug Squisher Username: Linda Post Number: 5 Registered: 01-2006 |
Lynette, Ghislaine looks absolutely scruptious! | ||
| Linda Buzzell-Saltzman (Linda) Bug Squisher Username: Linda Post Number: 4 Registered: 01-2006 |
Hi Sandra, Thanks for telling me about Francois Juranville. He's now on my 'no or low thorns' list! | ||
| Samantha Mooney (Matissesmom) Bug Squisher Username: matissesmom Post Number: 26 Registered: 09-2004 |
Hey, Allison, WildRose, when are you going to come to California? In the spring? Let me know. Santa Barbara isn't that far and I'd love to meet cha. Samantha..Sam... matissesmom. | ||
| Jeri Jennings (Jeri) Bug Squisher Username: Jeri Post Number: 56 Registered: 01-2006 |
Sue, your steam was pretty mild. It sounds as tho you DO have an opportunity to give them some input, tho -- and I hope that will eventually result in some changes. I think ARS is more open to "other" roses, in some parts of the country. Here in Southern California, yeah, we've also got an uphill battle to fight. Insidiously, we continue to undermine them by taking Old Roses they've never seen or heard of to rose shows. Keeps 'em guessing. Confuses the judges. Intrigues the public. <g> Last year, we showed 'Leonie Lamesch,' and people were excited to learn more about that neat "new" rose. TONS of fun. :-) Jeri Jennings | ||
| stephen scanniello (Steprose) Bug Squisher Username: steprose Post Number: 97 Registered: 01-2006 |
your very welcome to blow off steam. Just don't get the foliage wet at night. welcome! stephen | ||
| Sue Hopkins (Seattlesuze) Powdery Mildew Username: SeattleSuze Post Number: 2 Registered: 01-2006 |
My apologies for blowing off steam about the SRS and ARS on this forum. Sorry if I offended anyone. Bottomline, I'm glad to be here to learn and share. Sue | ||
| Meredith Edwards (Meredith_nc) Powdery Mildew Username: meredith_NC Post Number: 2 Registered: 01-2006 |
Thank you for the welcome, Stephen! Jeri, thank you so much for the great story. She is really a very beautiful rose. What a find! Yes, please keep us updated if she becomes commercially available. I have Cl. White Maman but would love to add Sarah to my garden. | ||
| stephen scanniello (Steprose) Bug Squisher Username: steprose Post Number: 86 Registered: 01-2006 |
Hi Meredith, welcome to the HRF forum. stephen | ||
| Jeri Jennings (Jeri) Bug Squisher Username: Jeri Post Number: 44 Registered: 01-2006 |
I have been bowled over by 'Sarah Moon'! Can you tell us any more about her, please? *** "Sarah Moon" is a favorite of mine, both for the garden, sentimentally. Southern California doesn't get a lot of play for found roses, but they ARE here, if you look. The real Sarah Moon was a California pioneer, whose family still farms in Ventura County. In the 1890's, on the day she buried her 18-mo-old son, Sarah collected a rose cutting in the old Ventura "St. Mary's Cemetery." In the 1950's, the cemetery was erased. But Sarah's rose is still in her descendants hands, and we got this rose from her great Grandson, Walt Klement. (Walt really prefers HT's. <g>) "Sarah Moon" sometimes looks like 'Maman Cochet,' but other times it looks like White Maman, and sometimes like 'Niles Cochet' (which it predates). I can't pin the ID down any closer to that, so I guess it will remain "Sarah Moon." I'm going to give cuttings tomorrow to Sherri Berglund, of B&B Nursery, so maybe, eventually, she'll be able to offer "Sarah Moon." Jeri | ||
| Jeri Jennings (Jeri) Bug Squisher Username: Jeri Post Number: 43 Registered: 01-2006 |
Allison, my favorite stretch of redwoods is up Hwy. 101, in the Humboldt Redwoods State Park. But email me directly, and I'll tell you about some of our favorite spots. Jeri heritageroses@gmail.com | ||
| Ron Robertson (Lemecdutex) Bug Squisher Username: lemecdutex Post Number: 24 Registered: 01-2006 |
Allison, there are several places with big Redwoods in California, most of them north of San Francisco. If you go up into the Sierras, particularly due east of Porterville and points north, you can see the giant Sequoias. Kings Canyon, and Sequoia National Park are two wonderful places to see the real giants, and lots of them. Truly special places. Kings Canyon is one hour east of Fresno. And of course, Yosemite is a well-known attraction. I can't remember which redwood forest has the most big trees, but they're all pretty wonderful. The gold-rush towns in the Sierra Foothills have lots of old roses left over, some of them huge. I saw some large Fortune's Double Yellow, Foetida Bicolor, regular yellow Foetida and others I didn't know just growing all around Coulterville. In fact, most any goldrush town has them scattered here and there. Hope you've got a long visit scheduled, there's lots to see! --Ron | ||
| Lynnette Callan (The_oldrosarian) Bug Squisher Username: the_oldrosarian Post Number: 5 Registered: 11-2004 |
I grow Ghislaine de Feligonde but I grow her as a large shrub, not a rambler. The rose grows like most multifloras in that it sends up a lot of long canes from the base. I find that it tends to bleach out in full, hot sun so mine is planted in partial shade. In that way I get the different colours of the flowers. It stays quite disease free for me and I don't spray.  | ||
| Meredith Edwards (Meredith_nc) Greenhorn Username: Meredith_NC Post Number: 1 Registered: 01-2006 |
Hello. This place looks very nice; forgive me if it takes a bit for me to find my way around. I usually lurk in these threads. But Jeri, I have been bowled over by 'Sarah Moon'! Can you tell us any more about her, please? That photo is breathtaking  | ||
| Allison Strong (Countess_wildrose) Bug Squisher Username: countess_wildrose Post Number: 13 Registered: 01-2006 |
I sure appreciate all the good ideas! I think my week in California is going to be one big road trip, with dear friends. I hope to see all the rosey sites, of which they (and you all!) tell me there are Many. Also those wonderful big redwood trees that I have heard about since elementary school. (Which area is the best for seeing redwoods? Seems I remember there are several "pockets" of them in the state?) I have started a "wish list" of places to see. We are probably going to rent an RV once I get there, so we can take in as many sites and experiences as one week will allow. Oh, is there a recommended winery along the way? It wouldn't be complete without wine to go with the roses. | ||
| Sandra Burket (Sburket) Bug Squisher Username: sburket Post Number: 9 Registered: 10-2004 |
Linda, I'm not familiar with Ghislaine de Feligonde, but you might want to add Francois Juranville to your list of "almost thornless" roses. It's salmon pink blooms can easily cover an arbor, and quickly. It's one of the most disease resistant roses I've ever grown. I never allowed it to reach it's 15' to 20' growth, but it easily grew several inches a day 11 months of the year here in Zone 9. I finally moved it last year to a more suitable location. All that constant trimming resulted in fewer blooms each spring. | ||
| Ron Robertson (Lemecdutex) Bug Squisher Username: lemecdutex Post Number: 18 Registered: 01-2006 |
I agree with Linda, you'll want to check out that mission, which is quite a beautiful one. | ||
| Linda Buzzell-Saltzman (Linda) Shovel Pruner Username: linda Post Number: 3 Registered: 01-2006 |
Hi Allison, You might also want to check out the Rose Garden opposite the Santa Barbara Mission. It has some of the older roses as well as far too many modern HTs. Next to the Mission is the Huerta (orchard) where the old fruit tree varieties grown by the padres are being restored, plus some old roses. | ||
| Allison Strong (Countess_wildrose) Bug Squisher Username: countess_wildrose Post Number: 10 Registered: 01-2006 |
Lol, Jeri, I know that song well, too (but you Don't want me to sing, trust me on that). Ok, is it a treasure hunt to find my way to San Jose, and meet some of you California Girls? I think I am supposed to fly in to Santa Barbara, but from there, dont really know where to go, except a few high points I can not miss: the redwoods, the pacific ocean, SJHRG, Ron's place, etc. It will be a fun week! | ||
| Linda Buzzell-Saltzman (Linda) Powdery Mildew Username: linda Post Number: 2 Registered: 01-2006 |
Thanks, Stephen. It's wonderful to have a place to talk about old roses... Has anyone grown the following rose? I'm making a list of thornless (or nearly so) roses and this sounded intriguing to run over an arbor... I'm in Zone 10, coastal California so it might grow much larger than stated. Ghislaine de Feligonde (Turbat 1916) Rambler/Hybrid multiflora. Yellow apricot blend of smallish, flouncy flowers on pliable stems. Fragrant. Easy to Train. Almost thornless. Shade tolerant. 10 – 15’ Linda | ||
| stephen scanniello (Steprose) Bug Squisher Username: steprose Post Number: 66 Registered: 01-2006 |
Hello Linda, welcome, come on in and join the fun! stephen | ||
| Jeri Jennings (Jeri) Bug Squisher Username: Jeri Post Number: 35 Registered: 01-2006 |
Allison -- To date myself with a song . . . "Do you know the way to San Jose . . . " Jeri | ||
| Linda Buzzell-Saltzman (Linda) Greenhorn Username: linda Post Number: 1 Registered: 01-2006 |
Glad to find you all here and to enjoy the beautiful fotos! Linda Santa Barbara Organic Garden Club | ||
| Allison Strong (Countess_wildrose) Bug Squisher Post Number: 7 Registered: 01-2006 |
Dang it, CindiLuWho!!! I was already drooling, now, after your wonderfully visual description, I can almost smell the air, redolent with fresh rose, green things, and wonderfully fertile earth... and it is still FIVE months til my California vacation!!! OK, what must I do to rate temporary California Girl status, and get a tour of my very own? You're all killlin' me here! | ||
| Jeri Jennings (Jeri) Bug Squisher Post Number: 23 Registered: 01-2006 |
Came home with visions of once bloomers. White, pure and clean. *** They affect me the same way -- like flowers full of moonlight. Take a look at the new ARS Magazine (one of the most interesting issues in a long time, btw). On pg. 26, there's a pix of the Viraraghavan's 'Silver Dawn,' one of their Evergreen crosses. I need to see what's behind that one. There's also a pix of Jill Perry, with her R. gigantea. <sigh> Jeri | ||
| Cindi Ard (Cindi) Bug Squisher Post Number: 7 Registered: 11-2004 |
Oh Allison. Just think, I saw that rose, I walked under it. Most those folks on this post are Californianians and they just do not know what that actually feels like as a Texan. It was beautiful. I am not sure but I think I was near Jeri when she took that photo. Lots of photos were took. I even got some. Think I even got me in some from my camera. I messed up my program for loading to my camera and have not figured out what to do. I have not put near the photos I took from there on picture trail. Most the time I was with George,(LIR), and Luanne and Jean from California. But I remember that like it was yesterday. Mel took me over to see his fenced in greenhouse roses. He even gave me a cutting from that bush. With all the roses I brought home from the auction and from Vintage I have no ideal what took place with my cutting. It just makes me sick. He showed us all sort of "bird drops." I spent such nice time that hour in time with rosibug. There was another garden we visited that was connected to a friends garden. The friend had more of an entertainment garden for gatherings. But the neighbor had a more natural garden. But touring the garden at the time of year we did all the once blooming white roses were just lighting up the place. In trees, over fences, over arbor, over roses. I loved it. Came home with visions of once bloomers. White, pure and clean. Singles do not do the thrips. So they would say pure white. I sure hope you get to see all the once blooming white roses. It was....so white,so green and unlike nothing I ever seen. I got to go back before long and go through my photos and put them for viewing. No place in the world can be as beautiful as California is with their roses. | ||
| Jeri Jennings (Jeri) Bug Squisher Post Number: 17 Registered: 01-2006 |
When we were in the garden that day, at the beginning of HRF, that rose drew me from across the garden. It is the most extraordinary tumble of white roses I've ever seen. The Kernel promises me one, and I'll put it up an old seedling avocado. There's nothing "funny" about the perspective -- what you see is what you get -- and Lois Ann is not a short woman. I want to look down the hill on moonlit nights and see that mass of white glowing at the bottom of the garden. I'm pretty excited about 'Lupe's Buttons' and 'The French Strumpet,' too. It looks like -- amazing things happen when you put 5,000 roses together in one place. :-) Jeri Jennings | ||
| Merrill Hulse (Kernel) Bug Squisher Post Number: 24 Registered: 09-2004 |
Ann, I took the photo of Guadalupe Volunteer in August of 2003 and use it as my wallpaper! Sure the stamens turn brown as do the blooms (look in the background). But isn't it worth it to get a picture like that with Lois Ann! GV is a once bloomer with varying duration. In 2003, it lasted from May until August. In 2004, it lasted less than a month. In 2005, I got 2 months out of it. It is disease free EXCEPT that dangling canes get PM on the ends. It wants to go UP! Da Kernel | ||
| Merrill Hulse (Kernel) Bug Squisher Post Number: 23 Registered: 09-2004 |
Here's another birddrop discovered in the Heritage 14 months ago that we are evaluating. We call it 'Lupe's Buttons'. It has been a constant bloomer since it was 5 months old. It is mostly a short mounding plant but it sent out 2-5' climbing canes that set 60+ buds on each end which are now bloomed out, but there are other blooms open. It is now poking out laterals. It is evergreen here. Note the red eye! Buds are apricot. In summer, blooms fade toward cream. In winter blooms are a rich pink. 7 petals. Fragrance is peculiar! It has none until blooms are fully open. Then for a very short time, it has a strong Noisette fragrance which fades fast to nothing! Every cutting strikes! I'm spreading it around for evaluation. Although I suspect the ARS won't accept it, I think it is mostly like a Noisette. The plant was only about 7 months old when this photo was taken. Da Kernel  | ||
| ann peck (Anntn6b) Bug Squisher Post Number: 5 Registered: 01-2006 |
Mel, Was that a really carefully photographed cluster, or do you have a multiflora for which the stamens don't get disgustingly brown half a day after opening???? Ann | ||
| Cass Bernstein (Cass) Bug Squisher Post Number: 7 Registered: 01-2006 |
I planted 'Guadalupe Volunteer' on my house. Heh. | ||
| Merrill Hulse (Kernel) Bug Squisher Post Number: 22 Registered: 09-2004 |
It is on a realistic scale! It is a hybrid musk with some multiflora. It has a lite fragrance. It is growing 30' up into a walnut tree. There is another birddrop next to Guadalupe Volunteer It is a single multiflora and is the left side of the mound. Here is a cluster. Da Kernel  | ||
| Allison Strong (Countess_wildrose) Shovel Pruner Post Number: 3 Registered: 01-2006 |
Oh my goodness!!! What a beautiful shower of white blossoms!!! If that one has a nice scent, you must have been in heaven!!! Is the photo on a realistic scale with the lady in the picture? Exactly how big IS this thing?! | ||
| Jeri Jennings (Jeri) Bug Squisher Post Number: 14 Registered: 01-2006 |
Here's another of Mel's fine strumpets. This one is 'Guadelupe Volunteer.' This was taken last May, on the weekend of the Seminar in El Cerrito, CA. Jeri Jennings | ||
| Jeri Jennings (Jeri) Bug Squisher Post Number: 13 Registered: 01-2006 |
Here's another of Mel's fine strumpets. This one is 'Guadelupe Volunteer.' This was taken last May, on the weekend of the Seminar in El Cerrito, CA.  Jeri Jennings | ||
| Allison Strong (Countess_wildrose) Greenhorn Post Number: 1 Registered: 01-2006 |
Lol, I LOVE that name! Any other gallic floozies hanging around? More, please! | ||
| Merrill Hulse (Kernel) Bug Squisher Post Number: 21 Registered: 09-2004 |
Here's one of our Heritage "bird drops." It is about half gallica and half a little of everything else in the garden! Jeri Named it "The French Strumpet" and that's what it is! We get several "bird drops" every year. A very few even turn out nice. Da Kernel  | ||
| Jeri Jennings (Jeri) Bug Squisher Post Number: 12 Registered: 01-2006 |
I don't know Lynette -- she's a pretty tough cookie, and grows just fine in our alkaline soil and water. I think she'd like a little more heat than I can give her, but she's a sort that doesn't complain. And your Paul Lede is lovely. What a soft, rich look it has! Jeri | ||
| Lynnette Callan (The_oldrosarian) Shovel Pruner Post Number: 3 Registered: 11-2004 |
If only I could grow Sarah Moon, but alas she would not put up with my poor, sandy soil and gale force winds. However I do have ONE tea called Paul Lede that is a climber.  | ||
| stephen scanniello (Steprose) Bug Squisher Post Number: 26 Registered: 01-2006 |
beautiful, beautiful. stephen | ||
| Jeri Jennings (Jeri) Bug Squisher Post Number: 9 Registered: 01-2006 |
Lynnette -- What is the pretty stripey? (Clearly something I cannot grow here in La La Land) Here's something I CAN grow:  "Sarah Moon" has been grown by a local family since the 1890's. :-) Jeri Jennings | ||
| Lynnette Callan (The_oldrosarian) Powdery Mildew Post Number: 2 Registered: 11-2004 |
Ron, I am inspired, so here goes my photo try.  | ||
| Cindi Ard (Cindi) Shovel Pruner Post Number: 3 Registered: 11-2004 |
Allison...I LOVE that name. It's fitting to you. I need a new name but think only Cindi is fitting for me. Oh Ron, that rose photo is beautiful, I think I can smell way down here!...I got to go figure out what it is. Bet it is not a Texan. | ||
| Ron Robertson (Lemecdutex) Bug Squisher Post Number: 5 Registered: 01-2006 |
Hey, it worked, or at least it does for me. It's Eugene Furst from my old Fresno Garden. | ||
| Ron Robertson (Lemecdutex) Bug Squisher Post Number: 4 Registered: 01-2006 |
I think you can just upload photos on here directly, there's a thing for "Upload Attachment" which I'll try and see what happens.  | ||
| Sue Hopkins (Seattlesuze) Greenhorn Post Number: 1 Registered: 01-2006 |
Hi All and Happy New Year! Glad to see you and am just checking in after having read through the HRF threads. We finally had some sunshine in Seattle today after 27 days of rain - I ran right out to check on Mme Alfred Carriere, Veilchenblau, and Gloire de Dijon after visiting the new Seattle Rose Society garden in SeaTac. What does one have to do to 'help' them realize how significant it is to include OGRs? 16 pillars being planted and not a one is a noisette. There are no bourbons, no teas, no chinas nor even rugosas, but lots and lots of floribundas, the inevitable HTs, and six Icebergs at the entry trellises. They asked for design assistance, so I'm crafting a plan as we speak. Would love to have your input! | ||
| Allison Strong (Countesswildrose) Powdery Mildew Post Number: 2 Registered: 01-2006 |
Hello Kent, thanks for your response. All I wanted to do was capitalize it correctly! (My mom was an English teacher, and to this day, I cringe if I think I have mispelled or mispoken! lol!) If there is no way to change from Countesswildrose to Countess Wildrose, I will humbly be content to accept an imperfection... mea culpa! Hi to you, too, Jeri! So glad to find some friendly and familiar voices here! Stephen, thanks for asking about where I garden! Home is about 75 miles east of the Antique Rose Emporium near Brenham. I was delighted to meet you and your neice and her boyfriend there when you were speaking sometime back. I sat with that nice couple during your talk, and she was, as we Texans like to say, a hoot! She rolled her eyes at your humor alot! (There now, I have done my duty, and tattled on her! heehee!) We have a few acres here in the wonderful east Texas sandy loam soil, in a very rural area of the county. My largest gardening project yet has been the development of a Celtic Knot Garden, (to honor my Scottish heritage) which is coming along nicely, although just a year old now. The knot garden consists of eight foot wide foot paths, a center arbor, a garden "room" at the bottom of the garden constructed of rough cedar, same as the center arbor, and a scattering of internal rose beds with an external perimeter of roses and fruit trees. The center arbor has a square bed extending away from each arbor post, and each of the four beds represents a season. Spring has roses in yellows and apricots, summer is dressed in pinks and rose tones. Autumn, as you will have guessed, has scarlet, orange, gaudy blends, and even a couple of beautiful deep reds. Winter's frock is white, of course. Each post has a climber of the appropriate shade to hopefully climb and meet to cover the structure in another couple of years. If it all begins to look tacky or tasteless? Well, gardening is the journey not the destination, so I can always move the worst offenders, right? I have a bunch of ideas, but for now it is off to a good start. The bones of the garden are in place, and more will come with time. The drip irrigation system went in a couple of weeks ago, and as soon as my workers are over their colds or flu, the mulch will follow. Luckily, we've had a very mild winter so far... it has allowed for more ongoing work than I expected. I am so glad to have this forum as a haven to retreat to, to talk roses with all of you! | ||
| Kent Krugh (Kkrugh) Board Administrator Post Number: 17 Registered: 09-2004 |
Allison, I don't think there is a way to edit or change your username. I can't do it as administrator. What I can do is delete your registration, and you could register again. Kent | ||
| Jeri Jennings (Jeri) Bug Squisher Post Number: 6 Registered: 01-2006 |
Hey Lynnette! Yes -- I hope there's a place for photos! If NOT, one way to work is to include a Photobucket link into a message. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/JeriJennings/ForestRanchPurplePomPomSactoCC .jpg Yes? Jeri | ||
| Lynnette Callan (The_oldrosarian) Greenhorn Post Number: 1 Registered: 11-2004 |
I was on the Gardenweb rose forums since they began but since it has been sold, I have watched it disintegrate into an advertising page where you can squeeze your words on. I now don't even feel safe posting. I could supply the Girls Guides of America with the cookies I collect on it!! Glad to see you Jeri, and your words of rose wisdom. A question. Do you have a forum where you can post photos of the OGRs ? | ||
| Jeri Jennings (Jeri) Bug Squisher Post Number: 4 Registered: 01-2006 |
HELLO ALLISON! I'm here too! Yes, I think we're going to see more traffic here now. :-) Jeri Jennings | ||
| stephen scanniello (Steprose) Bug Squisher Post Number: 13 Registered: 01-2006 |
Hi Allison, Welcome to our forum. I think if you go to "edit your profile" at the top left of the page, you should be able to make needed adjustments?? Tell us where the Countesswildrose gardens. That's a great name! stephen | ||
| Allison Strong (Countesswildrose) Greenhorn Post Number: 1 Registered: 01-2006 |
I think This Forum will shortly start seeing more traffic, as the problems on GW continue to escalate, with no response to those of us members who have emailed them repeatedly. It is too bad, but perhaps in this instance, change will be good. Stephen, thanks for the open invitation for us to come and chatter over here! I am new to this forum, and I think I goofed up when I was entering my user name. Is there a way to edit the chosen user name? Looking forward to some stimulating dialogue with all of you, I always learn something when I talk to a gardener! | ||
| Etienne BOURET (Amiroses) Bug Squisher Post Number: 4 Registered: 03-2005 |
Hi All and Happy New Year ! Etienne | ||
| stephen scanniello (Steprose) Greenhorn Post Number: 1 Registered: 01-2006 |
this is a test to see if I can get on this thread, stephen | ||
| Crenagh and David Elliott (Crenaghdavid) Bug Squisher Post Number: 10 Registered: 03-2005 |
Thanks Mel, I'm now sorted out and back on with the old registration, still not happy about the problem with re registrating. | ||
| Merrill Hulse (Kernel) Bug Squisher Post Number: 19 Registered: 09-2004 |
They are having problems. They say they'll be back to normal as soon as they can. Use an underscore for spaces. Mel | ||
| Crenagh and David Elliott (Crenaghdavid) Bug Squisher Post Number: 9 Registered: 03-2005 |
Just found with the Antique Rose Forum that I have had to try to reregister. On attemting to I found that if I enter a blank for the state and the Canadian post code that is unacceptable. There is no provision to enter BC though it accepts Canada! Has some nerd forgotten that canada exists, or would they prefer it did not? David |